Labour: Hated and Reviled
A little bit of self-deception from some twat writing on LabourList:
Over on Political Betting, Mike Smithson has suggested that the reason the polling for the general election was so inaccurate was a "shy Labour" phenomenon. In other words people were ashamed to admit they were Labour supporters.
I'm inclined to think that there's something in that theory. It's certainly more plausible than the idea that hundreds of thousands of people woke up on election day as Lib Dem supporters but changed their vote to Labour at the ballot box. I believe that the pencil can waver, just not that much.
If this is true then we're in a similar position now to the one Tories were in through the nineties - people are embarrassed to admit that they're Labour supporters. I don't believe we're hated or reviled in the same way that the Tories were - but I think a certain amount of soul searching is necessary if we're to realise why people might be wary of openly admitting support for Labour.
Ok, I'd like to say this - I hate and revile Labour in a way that far exceeds the contempt I feel for pretty much any other party bar the BNP. The Nu Labour years were a fucking disaster for this country; we are going to be feeling the consequences of their economic incompetence, idiotic war-mongering and general hatred of liberty for years to come. So don't deceive yourself, fella. People do hate and revile Labour. I am just one of them. And for anyone reading this, if you are too, then stick a comment to that effect on this post. Let's reassure our LabourList writer that the Labour party are actually hated and reviled.
And don't deceive yourself either about the extent of your defeat. The result of the election may well have been a hung parliament, but Labour's result represents a pathetic collapse in their support from 2005. Sure, Labour might have done better than some of the polls suggested, but that party was beaten by a damp squib of a man whose sole selling point was the fact that he was not Labour. Don't let a discrepancy in the Lib Dem polling figures against their actual support fool you - people deserted Labour in droves.
The Labour party has a big problem - it is hated by many people in this country, and those running for leader are unlikely to change that. Labour supporters can clutch at straws as much as they like, but they shouldn't think that they are able to hide the fact that the last election was a fucking disaster for the Labour party.
Labels: Election 2010 (UK), LabourList, Morons, Nu Labour
posted by The Nameless Libertarian @ 9:24 pm
18 Comments
18 Comments:
Yup, hate and revile them. And I used to be a party member.
Count me in on the hating and reviling - with a side order of loathing and detestation.
All of the above with a large portion of "fuck them".
Hate's a strong word. But it's fair to say I don't like them very much and I do tend to shout at the radio when they're on :)
Ex-member here too. I can't understand how the party don't get it. It abandoned everything Labour stood for, and introduced the most draconian reversion of personal rights this country has ever seen. And that's without the acceptance of torture, illegal wars, deregulation of banking and big business, 75p rises in pensions, et al...
Of course I detest Labour; it's betrayed 30 years of support in the most callous, heartless way.
I will put as much effort into keeping this evil cabal out of office as I spent getting it elected.
I weep about the party's demise as much as I weep over the lancing of a boil.
I don't think the crypto-communist legacy is going to be reversed. Not nearly enough people are aware how viciously hostile to civil liberties the whole "equality" agenda has been and remains. A society whose defining characteristic is envy can go in no other direction. The fact that a totally failed government of chippy Scots carpet-baggers could still win 8.6 million votes is a chilling portent.
As Phil said, hate is a strong word, but I do regard the Labour party as a loathsome, objectionable and thoroughly reprehensible organisation.
It's their supporters that I truly despair of though. Each and every time they've come to power, every single time, they've destroyed the economy, and yet their are people who will always vote for them, simply because it's what their family has always done, for generation upon generation.
I think Labour voters tend towards a blind tribalism in supporting Labour. Party loyalty counting for more than critical thinking.
Whoops; "their are people who..." should, of course, been "there are people who...".
Why are the typos only apparent on post?
Lets have a labour tax to pay for the mess. Hypothecated to pay for debts, including the civil service pension.
When people see the haemoraging of cash for their fuck ups and corruption, its going to be curtains
If you don't you perpertuate the lies, and they stand a chance of getting back in as the condems do the dirty work
Count me on the reviling side.
Lets have a labour tax to pay for the mess. Hypothecated to pay for debts, including the civil service pension.
When people see the haemoraging of cash for their fuck ups and corruption, its going to be curtains
If you don't you perpertuate the lies, and they stand a chance of getting back in as the condems do the dirty work
I don't hate them...
...I despise them. The only chance Britain could have adopted a progressive agenda with a respect for civil-liberties and putting an end to previous administrations' authoritarianism was the run up to 1997, and instead, we got the exact opposite, and will still get the opposite with the pieces of well oiled corporate crap that they're offering to us as leaders of their disgraced party.
The only thing they got right was LGBT rights. The only thing.
I utterly despise Zanu-Labour, the most religiose and authoritarian UK government in living memory. They should remain out of office for at least a generation, until Straw, Blunkett, and the other racist fascists are dead, and then maybe a new, liberty-loving team will be at the helm. But I don't want them back in office in my lifetime.
I absolutely detest Labour, yet again we are left in the same situation that Maggie found herself in back in 1979. I'm no lover of Thatcher, but having now looked at the shit storm she was left by the last Labour administration, what choice did she have?
History repeating itself. The coalition government have no choice but to make the cuts they have, or the country will be totally bankrupt and our credit rating will sink lower than a third world country. If we'd carried on with Labour's economic policy the nest Live Aid wouldn't be for Africa, it would have been for us!
When Gordoom Clown took over from Ken Clarke he inherrited a very strong economy (one of the very strongest in the world) and indeed followed the economic plans of the last Tory government until 2000, which continued to grow and improve our economy. Then after 2000 he went back to the old Labour ways of spend and borrow and look what happened. People seem to forget about all that. I'm no lover of The CONservatives but credit where credit is due, they do usually handle the economy better than Labour.
FUCK YOU LABOUR and more importantly FUCK YOU Gordoom Clown and Tony Bliar! FUCK YOU all!
Eugenics and Labour supporter; that's a nice pairing.
I'm in my 20s, I know nothing but Labour & I must say I hate them if anything even more listening to utter cunts like Straw come out with authoritarian shite, as if there hadn't been too much of i already?
My expectation for the elction was a Coservative majority, which I planned to oppose almost as much as Labour, & me to ease off on Labour because I don't believe in kicking a man when he's down. Yet they continue, under Harman, to be a completely fascist outfit. What other word is there?
They also piss me off by acting as if they are entitled to support by any decent person. When you ask why, it's because they're the GOOD GUYS! When you ask what makes them so, they say it's not your place to ask questions.
People are saying I MUST regret voting Liberal Democrat now. But why? I regard this government as a dramatic improvement, thanks in large part to their participation. Tribal Labour cunts have really been getting to me, & I'll tell you when it started, during the row over 42 days when they totally disgraced themselves slagging off David Davis. Do you remember what some of them said? Shite along those lines continued through the recession, the Euros, this election, & is being shat out still.
Fuck knows, I'm watered down compared to libertarians. But I don't see any of Labour doing anything to once & for all reject their legacy. I wonder if (this is Peter Hitchens' thesis in "The Abolition of Liberty") it is innate to them.
Of course none of this stops me reading & often agreeing with left-wing blogs that condemn Blair & Brown.
I do keep saying this repeatedly but it is troubling. The coalition have got definite problems, as although as I vaguely support them the country needs a strong force in opposition with a alternative.
You should meet my parents, 10:20, they would endorse you views.
PS- I see a poll has them on 36. Utter shite.
Liebor; a bunch of thieving, lying, cunts.
The electoral system in this country is broken, with less than 30% of the vote Labour should have experienced a total collapse in their number of MPs.
Labour hated civil liberties and I believe they helped track down opponents of Col. Gaddifi abroad and have them sent back to Libya for torture. This is corrupt and despicable. If it happened I hope some of them end up in jail for it.
I recently voted SNP for the first time in a Scottish Election; I hope come the General Election Labour will be finished in Scotland.
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