Idiot of the Day
Apparently, atheists are so dangerous that they need to be on a register
Internet pastor Mike Stahl has come up with an interesting idea to assist Christians in day-to-day life. According to Stahl, the nation should set up an “Atheist Registry” in order to provide an updated list of anyone who is a “self-proclaimed atheist,” just as you would do for people convicted of sex crimes or associated with terrorist groups.Yeah, put me on a registry for not believing in a mythical sky fairy and then come and try to convert me. See how well that goes!
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Although Stahl’s registry would only have a name and perhaps picture of the avowed, publicly declared atheist, and no physical address, he also believes that knowing who are the atheists in your neighborhood could lead to a wonderful opportunity to try and convert, too!
Labels: Atheist, Christian Fundamentalism, Idiot of the Day, Morons
posted by The Nameless Libertarian @ 8:31 am
12 Comments
12 Comments:
Atheists, Paedos, register 'em all! It's for their own good
When they knock on your door just tell them, "So, you believe in the afterlife then? Just hang on a bit while I pop into the kitchen to get the carving knife."
There isn't a database in the known universe big enough....
Great idea!
There's already a BNP member list, so you can look up who to avoid in the 'hood. Who's next? How about Vegetarians, Muslims of course, over 30-year-old single men living at home (obviously weirdos), Libertarians (very dangerous to "blinkers" (bound-thinkers)), etc.
Put me on the list, I never will be missed...
You tag this Christian fundamentalism and buy it lock, stock and barrel, just because some intolerant from the other side wants to attach the label Christian to himself.
It's got nothing to effing do with Christianity - no Christian does things like that. You don't see the real ones because they're quiet and tolerant but I'll give you one - go to Methodious [in my sidebar] or Caedmon's Cat.
They're the real Christians - this other lot are trying to drag its name into the mud. As for me, it's nothing to me what atheists do or don't do - it's their funeral.
This is always the way. Take a target group, someone labels himself as such and everyone believes anything he says.
By the way, TNL, I'm not annoyed or anything. ;-)
Oh for fuck's sake, James, I am fully aware of other permutations of Christianity. I was raised as a Christian, for fuck's sake. I have many Christian friends. The reason why I label it as Christian fundamentalism is to distinguish it from the far saner, far more tolerant mainstream Christians! That is the point of all religious fundamentalism - it is a distortion of the more moderate positions.
And you are being stunningly naive if you think Christians don't do this sort of thing. This guy is a fucking pastor and he's at it. Yeah, by all means decry this sort of bullshit from a fellow Christian, but don't pretend that he isn't part of your faith just because he doesn't do exactly what you think he should do.
No, Christians do not do this sort of thing because ipso facto, they are then not Christian.
This is the whole war in the churches at the moment and no, I'm not a churchgoer but I do see what's going down. If you're so naive as not to see that, then there's no hope.
There is no exhortation, as there is in the Koran and Hadiths to anything that these so-called fundamentalists are doing and calling to be done.
When will you wake up to the assault on Christianity which is going on. You won't because you have no incentive to explore it, TNL. Fair enough.
Just as we both have chapter and verse on our computers about the assault on freedom, I also have on this and there is wave after wave of it.
Suddenly, from nowhere, some nutter gets up and mouths off and suddenly this is in the MSM as Christians. Is everyone who calls himself a Marxist really one? If George Bush was a Christian, how could he also be Skull and Bones, the antithesis? Bill Graham's roots and connections are even known by the mainstream church and look at the damage he did.
e.g. "Graham Worries Heaven Might Be Wrong Place For Him", January 2, 2000, Fox News Interview, reported in The Calvary Contender, Vol. XVII, January 15, 2000.
It goes on and on. Any one of these might be a Neo-Christian but he sure ain't no Christian. Ditto Marcuse - you yourself said he wasn't Marxist and yet he claimed to be of that thought process. He's another Neo.
In general, you can't go outside the text of your philosophy and still claim to be of that philosophy.
You say you can tell the difference but a hell of a lot of people out there can't. The reason you can you just said yourself - you were brought up on it. Those today haven't and have no reference point to judge by.
They're told it's the effing Christians again and suddenly all the good people out there who've never done anything like this are tarred with the same brush. I mean, seriously - just look at some of the comments here.
Anyway, let's get off it.
No let's not get off it JH, you don't get to close the debate down like that. I'm glad that you have established for us that there is a definitive Christian philosophy that all who call themselves Christian must adhere to, if only you'd been around during the post reformation wars of religion to set everyone straight. Leaving aside the obvious point that you've missed, namely that Christianity does not claim to be a philosophy but rather the revealed truth, I'm truly baffled that anyone could think there's a settled philosophy of anything, religion, as philosophy or theology, is as man made as any other set of theories or beliefs ( this is true even if God is real ), consequently there can never be a final word on what and where the truth lies. Saying that there is no basis in Christian scripture or teaching for oppressive acts is plain wrong, just read the Old Testament if you don't believe me.
Let's also bear in mind that prior to the Enlightenment, intolerance and bigotry were the norm throughout Christendom, and there was no one then whinging about how they weren't true Christians.
People are only now objecting to things like this because secular morality has moved on without the church's help.
First up, James, you don't get to define what a Christian is anymore than you get to define what a Marxist is. What you can offer is your opinion, nothing more.
Secondly, if people can't tell the difference between mainstream Christians and fundamentalist Chrisitians it is, in part, because the former do not denounce the latter strongly or loudly enough. It isn't my job, or even in my interest, to do so.
Thirdly, I don't believe that there is an all-out assault on Christanity (having already explored the issue). But I do believe that any thought process/religion/philosophy should be able to stand up to robust critique. If it can't, it deserves to die.
I'm not naive about Christianity or tensions within it, James. I just don't fucking care because it is a meaningless myth that offers some people comfort and others a big stick with which to whack people.
TNL
No true Scotsman ;)
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